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Oi.

I haven't posted in a while, mostly because I've been busy.

The reason I've been moved to carve out a few minutes to post tonight is because my sister, once again, is letting a clingy LiveJournal friend stress her out. This "friend" complained to her that she thinks she's a "backup friend" because my sister hasn't been online much recently, and, consequently, hasn't been talking to HER. She thinks my sister HAS been online, but instead of talking to her, she thinks my sister has been talking to that nutjob Shoi.

Oi. Can't my sister get a life without catching crap from people online? She's been busy. She's been living with me, and she's been spending lots of time with friends she can see and hear and touch. She's also been making new friends. She's also been going to school.

I'm very happy that I don't catch crap from any of my friends here if I dissappear for a while. They know I'm busy. Thank you, everybody, for not being as crazy as the people my sister has had for friends in the past.

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packy
Sep. 1st, 2004 08:21 pm (UTC)
Hmm, let me think about it...

Nope. Sorry. No can do.

I know my sister. I know her almost better than she knows herself. I know how she acts around people. I see the way she interacts with people in real life. I see how she interacts with people online. Almost to a fault, she gets along with all of them. Yet with your little circle of friends, there's a problem. From my perspective, I don't see something wrong with my sister--I see something wrong with you folks.

So, no apology. Oh, and I might point out that, until you came here and got all snippy with me, little missy, nobody knew that it was you I was talking about. It could have been any number of my sister's overly clingy internet "friends". So don't go blaming me for outing you as a whiny little bitch. You'll get no sympathy from me.
(Anonymous)
Sep. 1st, 2004 09:00 pm (UTC)
I commend you for doing an equally effective job at outing your sister as a complete lunatic in hadia's LJ. Bravo.
*golfclaps*
crumpeteater
Sep. 2nd, 2004 10:21 am (UTC)
Oi. Can't my sister get a life without catching crap from people online? She's been busy.

Well, as I recall, when a certain dragon did the same thing, your sister left multiple screaming voicemails on her cell. Then again, I guess that's not crap. Just psychotic.
packy
Sep. 2nd, 2004 11:46 am (UTC)
Oh, come on. Shoi's such a drama queen. She's made up all this crap about my sister about how psychotic she was when she was in the hospital. The only problem with that is I SAW MY SISTER PRACTICALLY EVERY DAY when she was in the hospital, and Shoi's picture she paints is nothing like the girl I saw when I visited. Sure, she was angry and they were doing all sorts of crazy things with her meds, but you know what? She'd never have done any of the things Shoi's accusing her of.

I can easily see what happened--my sister called Shoi up and sounded clingy on the phone. Shoi decided she didn't have the energy to deal with this, even though in the past she'd told my sisder she was her best friend. So Shoi decided she was screaming, so she could ignore Alice without guilt. It's understandable that someone who's cooped up in a hospital would want contact with people in the outside world, and it's incumbent upon those who consider themselves friends to go out of their way to provide that contact. Nico isn't in a hospital. She's just fine. So Alice disappearing on Nico isn't anywhere near what Shoi did to Alice. Not even in the same league.

Look, my sister isn't psychotic, you folks are. Sure, she's depressed, shy and more than a little socially awkward, but she doesn't approach the level of detachment from reality that you folks achieve.

But go ahead and demonize her. It just further proves the vindictiveness within your insular little group. I'm glad Shoi finally showed her true colors and precipitated this whole falling out. Now my sister has time for her sane friends...
crumpeteater
Sep. 2nd, 2004 12:20 pm (UTC)
Look, my sister isn't psychotic, you folks are.

Her behaviour certainly was.

And we hardly have to demonize her. She's doing a good enough job of it herself-- and those pronouns remind me: isn't she Flori now? And therefore despite physical body, male?

It's understandable that someone who's cooped up in a hospital would want contact with people in the outside world, and it's incumbent upon those who consider themselves friends to go out of their way to provide that contact.

Shoi is notoriously bad at remembering to reply to letters and she hates calling strange places if there's a chance she won't know who picks up on the other end, besides which, she had real-life problems of her own. And to be honest, I think that if it came down to either having enough money to pay the rent or sending a friend (an online friend) who had voluntarily admitted themselves to hospital a letter, I would choose the rent every time.

Now my sister has time for her sane friends...

Good. Then she can go and viciously attack them over their cellphones instead.
packy
Sep. 2nd, 2004 02:16 pm (UTC)
Shoi is notoriously bad at remembering to reply to letters and she hates calling strange places if there's a chance she won't know who picks up on the other end

Yet if she had picked up the phone any of the numerous times my sister called her (I gave her a roll of quarters specifically so she could call Shoi, because she missed her), it wouldn't have cost her a dime. Gee, that kinda deflates the "she couldn't afford it" argument.

Oh, and Shoi would have been more inclined to talk to someone who was involuntarily checked into a hospital? That's scary. When someone walks into a hospital of their own accord, it means they're sane enough to realize something was wrong (in my sister's case, it was depression, not psychosis). When they're checked in against their will, it means they're too far gone to know.

And it's not even so much that she avoided contact. It's when my sister finally got out, and was angry, she lashed back rather than apologizing for not helping her. I mean, good grief! If you're too lame to pick up the phone when people call you, then you OUGHT to apologize when a friend's angry that you've been out of touch.

I think this whole thing is because you folks are a bunch of crybabies. If Alice gets upset and yells at one of you, she's viciously attacking you. Come on, grow a spine. If the moment someone gets justifiably angry with you they're accused of being a psycho, you've got a lot of psychos in your future.

Just wait until one of you scares Shoi, and YOU become the psycho. Don't worry, it'll happen eventually. And when it does, you can remember that I told you so.

As for who Alice is, I'm fairly certain the plethora of people are back, so who she is at any one moment is up for grabs. Of course, because Alice's personalities all talk to each other, it's not Multiple Personality Disorder, it's just normal anthropomorphizing of her inner dialogue. She just gives them names, which her psychologist considers "creative".

Sorry, folks. No insanity points there.

Anyway, one of my other friends has suggested that I liberally employ use of the "Delete" button. "You don't need this crap any more than Alice does," she told me. But I won't. Why? Because then, in your small little minds, you'll have won, because all criticism of you will have disappeared.

Oh, and one more thing that occurs to me... last night, Nico accused Alice of spreading the transcript of their IM conversation "all over the place." My question is, if Nico is so blameless in this transaction, shouldn't the transcript of the IM prove that? Or, rather, would it show Nico blowing up at Alice and giving her the third degree when Alice told her (truthfully) that she didn't know if she could trust her anymore.

Like I said before, you folks are crybabies. Go back into your fantasy world where you think that you're good writers and decent artists, and leave my sister alone. I'm tired of you folks being a drag on her creativity.
crumpeteater
Sep. 2nd, 2004 02:20 pm (UTC)
I gave her a roll of quarters specifically so she could call Shoi, because she missed her

Funny, cause, uh...

'Alice Andartak: I sent eight letters. I did humiliating things to get the dollar to call her long distance on the pay phone. All I wanted was someone to say, "Fu, you don't deserve to be treated like shit."'

Looks to me like one of you is lying. It might help if you write your story out so you can keep it straight.
packy
Sep. 2nd, 2004 02:52 pm (UTC)
Very funny. I gave her the roll of quarters AFTER she humiliated herself to get the dollar, specifically BECAUSE she was complaining that she had to humiliating things to get the money to call Shoi.

I certainly didn't give it to her the moment she went in. I'm good, but I'm not psychic.

Next criticism?
packy
Sep. 2nd, 2004 03:02 pm (UTC)
Rae, we can go at this forever. But you won't be able to catch us in a lie, because, frankly, we're not lying. That's the convenient thing about truth--you never have to worry about keeping your story straight. It keeps itself straight.
crumpeteater
Sep. 3rd, 2004 12:14 am (UTC)
You see, I don't believe you and I don't believe Alice. I believe Shoi. I believe that you're either consciously lying or so deluded that you can't help it. It's nice that you believe your sister (even if it does rather smack of sockpuppetry and fanaticism) and I just hope that it doesn't prevent her from getting the help I think she needs.

We've heard a lot of different things from Alice and somehow they're not just not adding up, some of them completely contradict each other. So it's a little hard, or even try 'impossible', to believe her. And by default, you.

And that's all I have to say. I'm finished with this entire thing.
packy
Sep. 2nd, 2004 08:52 pm (UTC)
I love my friends
Recent email from a friend who knows both me and my sister: "I'm not posting this to your LiveJournal because, frankly, I don't need those freaks spouting their schizophrenic paranoid negativity in my direction."

But, of course, I'm her older brother. When freaks attack my baby sister, it's my job to step in and put the fear of God in them.

Of course, putting fear in these little girls isn't hard: Shoi's scared enough she wants to take out an order of protection. Against my sister. Yes, you heard that right. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when she presents her "evidence" to a judge; it'd be so satisfying to watch her face get red as the judge bursts into tears of laughter.

I think I'll say "Boo!" so she'll try to have a court order taken out against me, too.
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